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Malcolm

You asked:

> what was the fate of Captains of the Lower Deck?

Should we not be talking about Captains of the various Parts of Ship, in which case I don’t think they did disappear, at least not in my time ?

If you look at pay scales, from say 1835 :

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/NL_1835/Pay.html#Petty

when midshipmen et al were included amongst the Petty Officers’ scales of pay, as you’ll be aware, the Petty Officers in charge of the various parts of ship were either Petty Officers First or Second Class, that division disappearing in 1907 :

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/LondonGazette/WT_Seamen_PO2_PTI,.html

The last example I’ve got showing scales of pay for the captains of the various parts of ship is 1885 :

http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/NL_1885/Ratings_Pay.html

ie which suggests to me that they probably disappeared in that period or more likely in 1907, the last of the sailing navy having just about disappeared except for a brig or two and numerous hulks…….but whilst the title of Captain of the various parts of sailing ship may have disappeared with the wooden walls, but surely the Petty Officers in charge of the various Parts of Ship continued for many years…….at least into the early 1970s, as far as my sea-going career was concerned ?

Paul
Isle of Portland
http://www.pbenyon.plus.com/Naval.html#Scales