Need information on HM Brig Daring, CMDR H.J Matson, Experimental Brig Squadron

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    Ryan K
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      Looking for any information, ship draught’s, letters, articles etc regarding HM Brig Daring of the experimental brig squadron from the mid 1840s. I found one letter to the Admiralty, an official report regarding the trials, and the Daring appears to have proved consistently superior on most points of sail and especially on a bowline in a good blow than all of the other brigs by a significant margin. Near the end of the article CMDR Matson goes on to praise his vessel saying “my sincere congratulations on your giving to the service so matchless a brig as the Daring.”

      Ryan

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      Frank Scott
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        John Fincham A History of Naval Architecture (London, 1851) devotes quite a lot of space to the results of the various experimental sailing trials in the 1840s. For the Brigs see pages 228 to 234, and the table on 248. Although he mentions how well the Daring did in the first series of trials, he goes on to note that the Mutine suffered from various defects and problems in the trials, but she performed much better later, and that she was specifically designed for shallow draft. By contrast it seems that the Daring (which had the deepest draft of the brigs) did not excel in later trials. He commends the extensive report on the first series of trials of 1844 by Captain Corry as being conducted in accordance with his ideas, and also refers to Parliamentary Paper No. 394 (A), Session 1845, but I have not sighted either of these.

        Frank Scott

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        Ryan K
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          Thank you for the book reference!

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          Michael Leek
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            Harold A Underhill (author of Deep-Water Sail amongst other works) was planning a book on brigs but unfortunately died before it could be completed or published. To be included in this proposed study was to be a section on RN brigs, possibly including HMS Daring. I understand that following his death much of Underhill’s archives were deposited with the National Maritime Museum.

            It might also be worth a search of Basil Lubbock’s papers, also held by the NMM, as Lubbock collected more material on nineteenth century sail than he ever published in his books, including material relating exclusively or specifically to the RN during the same period.

            Draughts of Daring are held by the NMM. See David Lyon’s The Sailing Navy for details.

            Michael Leek

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